# GrabberReceiver triggering scene in Ableton Live **URL:** \ **Category:** Sync tools\ **Created:** [April 18, 2018, 3:58pm UTC](https://forum.showsync.com/t/grabberreceiver-triggering-scene-in-ableton-live/304 "2018-04-18T15:58:22Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![jonas](https://forum.showsync.com/user_avatar/forum.showsync.com/jonas/32/116_2.png) [@jonas](https://forum.showsync.com/u/jonas)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2018, 3:58pm UTC](https://forum.showsync.com/t/grabberreceiver-triggering-scene-in-ableton-live/304/1 "2018-04-18T15:58:22Z")
I would like to use LiveGrabber to trigger Ableton via OSC. It would be very useful to have the possibility to map/patch incoming OSC-messages like ‘/eos/cue/1/1/fire’ coming from a ETC lighting desk, to trigger a specific Ableton scene, identified by a scene name like ‘cue1’ or something similar. It isn’t possible yet, or am I missing something? ---
**Author:** ![Mattijs](https://forum.showsync.com/user_avatar/forum.showsync.com/mattijs/32/49_2.png) [@Mattijs](https://forum.showsync.com/u/Mattijs)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2018, 12:21pm UTC](https://forum.showsync.com/t/grabberreceiver-triggering-scene-in-ableton-live/304/2 "2018-04-24T12:21:31Z")
Hi Jonas, Correct, that is not yet possible. But there should definitely be a SceneGrabber for this. The message format you propose, ‘/eos/cue/1/1/fire’, is that a fixed format for the ETC desk or would this be open for debate? For example message like ‘/scene cue1’ would seem more straightforward (not to mention easier to implement 😉 Best, Mattijs ---
**Author:** ![jonas](https://forum.showsync.com/user_avatar/forum.showsync.com/jonas/32/116_2.png) [@jonas](https://forum.showsync.com/u/jonas)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2018, 6:52pm UTC](https://forum.showsync.com/t/grabberreceiver-triggering-scene-in-ableton-live/304/3 "2018-04-24T18:52:13Z")
Hi Mattijs, Thanks for your kind response! A SceneGrabber would be great! 🙂 Unfortunately ‘/eos/cue/1/1/fire’ is a fixed ETC command, but I thought more of a solution with an “in-built” patch-possibility: any incoming cue xyz/xyz/xyz could then be assigned to your proposed format ‘/scene cue1’ (which is of course the most straightforward!) that triggers the scene specified in the arguement. If no patch is used, Ableton listens to ‘/scene cue1’ and triggers the scene named cue1. But as there is software like osculator that does the patching, there’s no real need to it. I just thought, that ParamGrabber works similar… 😉 All the best, Jonas ---
**Author:** ![Mattijs](https://forum.showsync.com/user_avatar/forum.showsync.com/mattijs/32/49_2.png) [@Mattijs](https://forum.showsync.com/u/Mattijs)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2018, 7:06am UTC](https://forum.showsync.com/t/grabberreceiver-triggering-scene-in-ableton-live/304/4 "2018-04-30T07:06:34Z")
Hi Jonas, Here is a first version of the SceneGrabber, if you’d like to give it a go and let me know if anything doesn’t work as expected, that would be great. [http://showsync.info/livegrabber/SceneGrabber.amxd.zip](http://showsync.info/livegrabber/SceneGrabber.amxd.zip) ---
**Author:** ![jonas](https://forum.showsync.com/user_avatar/forum.showsync.com/jonas/32/116_2.png) [@jonas](https://forum.showsync.com/u/jonas)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2018, 8:27am UTC](https://forum.showsync.com/t/grabberreceiver-triggering-scene-in-ableton-live/304/5 "2018-04-30T08:27:16Z")
Hi Mattijs, Wow, that was fast! Thank you so much!! Generally it works really well and exactly as I would expect it. On the first look I found two minor bugs: The device says “No Receiver!” even if there is one and it works. Maybe that’s intended but it doesn’t seem to work when I send an integer. I can not trigger a scene that is named “2” by sending “/Scene 2” but have to rename it to cue2 and send “/Scene cue2” ---
**Author:** ![Mattijs](https://forum.showsync.com/user_avatar/forum.showsync.com/mattijs/32/49_2.png) [@Mattijs](https://forum.showsync.com/u/Mattijs)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2018, 4:09pm UTC](https://forum.showsync.com/t/grabberreceiver-triggering-scene-in-ableton-live/304/6 "2018-04-30T16:09:15Z")
Hi Jonas, Thanks for the feedback! Here is a changed version that should address the number argument issue: [http://showsync.info/livegrabber/SceneGrabber.amxd.zip](http://showsync.info/livegrabber/SceneGrabber.amxd.zip) However I was unable to reproduce the “No Input!” issue you mention. For me it does disappear as soon as I drop in a GrabberReceiver device. Are you sure you have the latest Livegrabber 3.4 download from [Showsync | Free Tools for Ableton Live](https://showsync.info/livegrabber/)? If so, could try to right-click the MFL device’s title bar and choose Open Max Window to see if there are any errors there? ---
**Author:** ![Mattijs](https://forum.showsync.com/user_avatar/forum.showsync.com/mattijs/32/49_2.png) [@Mattijs](https://forum.showsync.com/u/Mattijs)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2018, 4:11pm UTC](https://forum.showsync.com/t/grabberreceiver-triggering-scene-in-ableton-live/304/7 "2018-04-30T16:11:05Z")
Wait, I just did another update that might address the No Input issue. I have overwritten the file on the same link: [http://showsync.info/livegrabber/SceneGrabber.amxd.zip](http://showsync.info/livegrabber/SceneGrabber.amxd.zip) It would be great if you could check if this version fixes both your issues. ---
**Author:** ![jonas](https://forum.showsync.com/user_avatar/forum.showsync.com/jonas/32/116_2.png) [@jonas](https://forum.showsync.com/u/jonas)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2018, 4:34pm UTC](https://forum.showsync.com/t/grabberreceiver-triggering-scene-in-ableton-live/304/8 "2018-04-30T16:34:39Z")
Hi Mattijs, Are you sure, that you have overwritten it? I still experience both issues… The No Receiver thing: could it be, because I still have Max6 installed. The [getUniqueID]-object is not found… ---
**Author:** ![jonas](https://forum.showsync.com/user_avatar/forum.showsync.com/jonas/32/116_2.png) [@jonas](https://forum.showsync.com/u/jonas)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2018, 4:36pm UTC](https://forum.showsync.com/t/grabberreceiver-triggering-scene-in-ableton-live/304/9 "2018-04-30T16:36:29Z")
Found the solution for the number argument… I just had to put it in quotation marks in the sender-software like this: /Scene “2” ---
**Author:** ![Mattijs](https://forum.showsync.com/user_avatar/forum.showsync.com/mattijs/32/49_2.png) [@Mattijs](https://forum.showsync.com/u/Mattijs)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2018, 5:12am UTC](https://forum.showsync.com/t/grabberreceiver-triggering-scene-in-ableton-live/304/10 "2018-05-01T05:12:11Z")
It sounds like there may have been a caching issue, I just uploaded the latest version here: [http://showsync.info/livegrabber/SceneGrabberV2.amxd.zip](http://showsync.info/livegrabber/SceneGrabberV2.amxd.zip) If you have time perhaps you could have a look if this version behaves as expected. ---
**Author:** ![jonas](https://forum.showsync.com/user_avatar/forum.showsync.com/jonas/32/116_2.png) [@jonas](https://forum.showsync.com/u/jonas)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2018, 10:36am UTC](https://forum.showsync.com/t/grabberreceiver-triggering-scene-in-ableton-live/304/11 "2018-05-01T10:36:58Z")
Still the same. Max console says “getUniqueID: no such object.” To be sure: since you wrote two times “No Input”-Issue –– everything with this prompt works well. It’s a “No Receiver”-issue… but I think we were already talking about the same thing… ---
**Author:** ![Mattijs](https://forum.showsync.com/user_avatar/forum.showsync.com/mattijs/32/49_2.png) [@Mattijs](https://forum.showsync.com/u/Mattijs)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2018, 10:41am UTC](https://forum.showsync.com/t/grabberreceiver-triggering-scene-in-ableton-live/304/12 "2018-05-01T10:41:40Z")
Hi Jonas, Thanks for taking the time to try this out. If it’s ok with you I will send you a new version and continue the conversation via email. To all others: we’ll report back here after SceneGrabber is added to Livegrabber 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Mattijs](https://forum.showsync.com/user_avatar/forum.showsync.com/mattijs/32/49_2.png) [@Mattijs](https://forum.showsync.com/u/Mattijs)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2018, 12:21pm UTC](https://forum.showsync.com/t/grabberreceiver-triggering-scene-in-ableton-live/304/13 "2018-05-08T12:21:24Z")
Update: SceneGrabber is now part of the updated LiveGrabber 4.0: [Livegrabber 4.0 released - Free tools - Showsync Forum](https://forum.showsync.info/t/livegrabber-4-0-released/) ---
**Author:** ![Sam](https://forum.showsync.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/s/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Sam](https://forum.showsync.com/u/Sam)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2018, 1:45pm UTC](https://forum.showsync.com/t/grabberreceiver-triggering-scene-in-ableton-live/304/14 "2018-05-13T13:45:32Z")
TYVM for developing this! Am I correct in understanding SceneGrabber won’t transmit the scene name out, say, to my TouchOSC-enabled device? If so, any suggestions? Thank you! –Sam ---
**Author:** ![Mattijs](https://forum.showsync.com/user_avatar/forum.showsync.com/mattijs/32/49_2.png) [@Mattijs](https://forum.showsync.com/u/Mattijs)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2018, 8:13pm UTC](https://forum.showsync.com/t/grabberreceiver-triggering-scene-in-ableton-live/304/15 "2018-05-13T20:13:45Z")
Hi Sam, Unfortunately the Live API does not allow observing when a scene is triggered, so I am afraid this option is impossible for us to add at the moment. As soon as Ableton and Cycling '74 decide to make this info accessible, we will be the first to add it to the SceneGrabber. If you have the time, it would be great if you could start a topic on their forums about this, perhaps referring to this thread. Who knows, that may help them add priority to implementing this. ---
**Author:** ![Sam](https://forum.showsync.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/s/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Sam](https://forum.showsync.com/u/Sam)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2018, 9:04am UTC](https://forum.showsync.com/t/grabberreceiver-triggering-scene-in-ableton-live/304/16 "2018-05-14T09:04:50Z")
That’s a shame. I’ll nag Ableton. Thank you! ---
**Author:** ![Sam](https://forum.showsync.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/s/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Sam](https://forum.showsync.com/u/Sam)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2018, 11:25am UTC](https://forum.showsync.com/t/grabberreceiver-triggering-scene-in-ableton-live/304/17 "2018-05-25T11:25:24Z")
Posted on their Centercode site after I confirmed with Ableton there wasn’t another solution. ---
**Author:** ![Mattijs](https://forum.showsync.com/user_avatar/forum.showsync.com/mattijs/32/49_2.png) [@Mattijs](https://forum.showsync.com/u/Mattijs)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2018, 11:24am UTC](https://forum.showsync.com/t/grabberreceiver-triggering-scene-in-ableton-live/304/18 "2018-05-27T11:24:49Z")
Thank you Sam, let’s hope they will increase the priority of this feature! ---
**Author:** ![Sam](https://forum.showsync.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/s/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Sam](https://forum.showsync.com/u/Sam)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2018, 1:58pm UTC](https://forum.showsync.com/t/grabberreceiver-triggering-scene-in-ableton-live/304/19 "2018-05-27T13:58:10Z")
Well, while we wait, I’m still looking for a way to display song names on my phone via TouchOSC. Is there a way for a dummy clip to send or trigger a text string to be displayed on TouchOSC? Any ideas out there? I also have MIDI Translator but don’t speak AppleScript. ---
**Author:** ![Mattijs](https://forum.showsync.com/user_avatar/forum.showsync.com/mattijs/32/49_2.png) [@Mattijs](https://forum.showsync.com/u/Mattijs)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2018, 6:30am UTC](https://forum.showsync.com/t/grabberreceiver-triggering-scene-in-ableton-live/304/20 "2018-05-28T06:30:53Z")
Yup, using a TrackGrabber with the TriggeredClipName field should allow you to send out the name of a clip. You could duplicate the names of the scenes in clip names and use that as a workaround. [Next page](https://forum.showsync.com/t/grabberreceiver-triggering-scene-in-ableton-live/304.md?page=2)