# Ableton 12 freeze / crash with Videosync **URL:** \ **Category:** Videosync\ **Created:** [January 19, 2026, 4:18pm UTC](https://forum.showsync.com/t/ableton-12-freeze-crash-with-videosync/2671 "2026-01-19T16:18:36Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 4\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Philipp](https://forum.showsync.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/p/46a35a/32.png) [@Philipp](https://forum.showsync.com/u/Philipp)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2026, 4:18pm UTC](https://forum.showsync.com/t/ableton-12-freeze-crash-with-videosync/2671/1 "2026-01-19T16:18:36Z")
Videosync 2.1.6 Ableton Live 12.3.1 Beam 2.0.6 I have a Live-Set including Videosync and Beam devices. It runs perfectly until a duration of about 4 hours. Then Ableton freezes. Whereas video playback and processing keeps running, in fact. However, no more audio from Ableton. I tested it without Beam and Videosync open. It still crashes. Which points towards the Max for Live devices. I deleted the Videosync Max for Live devices (but kept the Beam ones) in this particular Live-Set. It did NOT crash anymore. How can this be fixed? Thank you ---
**Author:** ![Jean-Paul](https://forum.showsync.com/user_avatar/forum.showsync.com/jean-paul/32/1898_2.png) [@Jean-Paul](https://forum.showsync.com/u/Jean-Paul)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2026, 2:11pm UTC](https://forum.showsync.com/t/ableton-12-freeze-crash-with-videosync/2671/2 "2026-01-24T14:11:54Z")
Hey Philipp, We’ve been aware of this issue for a while, but it’s been very hard to debug, considering it only seems to make Live freeze (beachball) after a few hours. However, not having either of our applications open with the freezing still happening is a nice clue. We do have an idea about what _could_ be the cause of this issue, and we will release updates in the near future for Beam and Videosync to attempt to address this. It’s hard to say at this point however if it will be a definitive fix, so please let us know if things seemed to have improved after updating, once the updates are out. Also, since the issue seems to be in the Max for Live device files, be sure to update all devices in your Live Set(s) to the latest upcoming versions. More info on how to do that in [the other topic you’ve opened](https://forum.showsync.com/t/how-to-update-videosync-devices/2669/2). ---
**Author:** ![Philipp](https://forum.showsync.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/p/46a35a/32.png) [@Philipp](https://forum.showsync.com/u/Philipp)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2026, 1:48pm UTC](https://forum.showsync.com/t/ableton-12-freeze-crash-with-videosync/2671/3 "2026-05-15T13:48:39Z")
Hello Jean-Paul, when I met you at Superbooth you mentioned reports that Envelope Followers may cause trouble. Indeed! If I delete the Envelope Follower from the particular Live-Set, there are no more freezes. Im relieved that after years, the cause was detected. However, an Envelope Follower to me seems the most straight forward, intuitive and simple way to make visuals sound reactive. So not being able to use any, is a big(!) downgrade! Is there anything comparable implemented in Videosync? Maybe I missed out. If not, could you program an Envelope Follower, which works? ---
**Author:** ![Jean-Paul](https://forum.showsync.com/user_avatar/forum.showsync.com/jean-paul/32/1898_2.png) [@Jean-Paul](https://forum.showsync.com/u/Jean-Paul)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2026, 10:05am UTC](https://forum.showsync.com/t/ableton-12-freeze-crash-with-videosync/2671/5 "2026-09-23T10:05:34Z")
As I mentioned in [this topic](https://forum.showsync.com/t/ableton-lfo-loses-isf-shader-destinations/2773/7), Ableton has recently fixed a bug relating to the Max for Live Modulators, where they “would sometimes have no audible effect on ARM64 machines”. This may also fix the beachball/crash issue described in this thread, although we can’t guarantee it. It would be great if you could give the latest Live beta a spin and let us know whether the crashes still occur, @Philipp !